Can projects start from/by other creatives and not in the normal director/producer hierarchy? the feeling of self indulgence vs being part of someone else's indulgencerealising or putting out there a solid or abstract idea about a projectfollowing/creating one's own pathis the hierarchy always in place no matter how the idea is instigated?does working with devisers open it up to more creatives and collaborators that do not follow this hierarchy?a provocationeconomics of theatre rule the hierarchy - we always need the safe path - normal process vs freedom to creater&d s are not hierarchical and therefore free-er explorationsis it your path that finds you through choices or offers?burnout - effort and reward balanceBottom line:IT IS THE QUALITY OF AN IDEA THAT MATTERSthe hierarchy is always there and finds you unavoidably.Corporate finance idea - who's the best for the jobThere is always the best director producer or director designer or likewise combination for a job. It is what will get the idea its truest expression you just need to find the right people for the playpeople approaching "solid bets to make an ideathat season at the royal court that was instigated by CL the resident designer.There are theatres that are writing lead or director lead. Can they be designer lead or choreographer lead?Germany as a modelMaybe create opportunities for oneself by approaching others with your ideasFilm has big marketplaces during festivals for ideas. The infrastructure is there.Why noe A MARKETPLACE FOR THEATRE IDEAS? ONE PAGE TREATMENTSWhat a gap in the market!The treatment is the idea and getting it out there to many people at the same time - not approaching individual theatres. Finding collaborators that truly love that idea.A marketplace with the money in the room.The money people or reaction of others also acts like a cushion - if they invest in our idea financially or otherwise at least you know at least you have a potentially good idea. Or if not that it may not be good or that is not the time for it.TV+Film model UNBOXEDDREAM MACHINEOther people should not decide what we makeDirector's and Producer's responsibility is WHY this play and WHY nowcommunity modelDYCPThe idea can come from anyone but once there that person kind of follows the hierarchy and becomes or finds a producer.Submission windows are only for plays not for ideas and are just a few.Samuel Beckett awardLots of company opportunities but not idea lead.A theatre dragon's denAnonymous to avoid subconscious biasThe Voice for TheatreTV => Andrew L W casting from "any dream" and getting audiences cashing in tv publicity.(That is the point the brilliant idea to get ideas out and make brilliant theatre went all the way to be money maker and we all laughed all the way to the circle!)