A few key points made by the group (which grew in size during the session!).

- We tend to seek certainty these days, yet the state of not knowing, the
wildnerness can be a vital place for our creative journey

- Long silence and the empty space can be hard to bear, even a state of suffering, yet these are also places where our finest ideas and impulses can be born

- As we get older we notice we have less time ahead of us than behind us andthis can focus us more on the essential, to suffer collusion less

- We can collude with mediocrity, avoid risk and danger, play life too safe, never risk real honesty which can be uncomfortable, and even when we do honestly name, we take no action. When we do commit to real action, we dilute or allow things to revert back to familiarity and safety, or fade away

- We can live a B minus life but label it as A plus!

- There is a longer term price to pay for this superfical strategising around safety and ease. We feel (if we go there) a deeper sense of wretchedness

- It can be ok to say "I have reached a limit" and can now only share with, and support others

- Coaching and trusted challenge can help is creatively embrace and transform our deeper wretchedness

- We tend, in the west, to have an issue about avoiding a deeper honesty and label it as rude or unnecessarily traumatic