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What would an open space "un"-school look like?
Eva EvaEva - 12 October 2012
REPORT DETAILFirst draft of our discussion:
Eva (host) naming motivation: Wanting to explore options of educating my daughter outside of the system which seems very stifling- but fear and prejudices around homeschooling, i.e. that it could be very insular -wanting a community to educate my daughter along with others, where everyone involved learns.
Matilda: the Fear that it is “insular”- example of a homeschooler going to school at 16 who found that at school actually
problems of conventional schools - they are too big
it is illegal to homeschool in germany; italy
andrea is a teacher working with post grads, comes from a company - what i see is that the italisn school system is based on totally weird principles: age separation not on attitudes or areas of interest. also total lack of practical application of what students are learning. dozens of young talented students but they have no idea of what to do/ what they are good at. they are lost.
3rd problem in my opinion is rules ,made by professors not by users, young students or families. speaking for italy. these elemnts together create something- the opposite of OS. os is based on invitation not compulsory attendance. whoever comes is right vs you are not the right person for this class. you cant customise your curriculum, or only to a small extent. you must learn a set5 of topics, a set of areas- math, lanuage, not other very valuable skills like manuality, the expression of your bdy, many other things. nobody taught me to dance. how could it be- in a different way. why not rbrng them to education. i cant go farther.
jutta- im a mother of 3 im a teacher, i have a montessori certificate. im at os bc its montessori for grown ups. i work in state schools and in montessori. i couldn't handle the work amount at Montessori. the system of the state school provides a structure. i can handle getting my work into it. partly bc i grew up in the system. my education to become a teacher wasnt that mind changing that i can work in a different hinking- thats still a problem. i want to work on it but it just doesnt happen. so im on both sides. i think it should be different but i call the parents “your daughter missed my lesson”.. I'm that system, im thinking the other way too.
i decided not to send my kids to a private school. they both said i want to be able to walk to school, to have my friends aorund me. they cope with the system. its ok. and i would have been worried about that insular thing bc thats one point for being at school- meeting the others.
discussing at my school- can we offer 1 week when pupils choose topics- projektwoche. immediately the voice- how will you monitor attendance?!
anna- have moved school internationally a lot, have family who homeschooled, have my own view on that. my job on the british edu system to develop a whole school approach to restoratove practices, a lot of it done through circles, me modekking and trsining or the teachers. it's a massive leap for scools to take me on as a project. but there are esp in primary some schools who are valuing student led circles. restorative approach to problem solving. restorative justice- in the criminal justice system you bring criminal and victim together to talk. in edu- if there has been a wrongdoing, harm has happend- how do you facilitate those. but in a broader way- how can that approach be for the whole school so the teachers stop telling their students to say sorry, .. how can they value what the students want. how can you put it right in the first place?that dialogue- what do we want and how do we get there.
matilda: how is that going?
its bloody hard work. teachers have targets, the pressure, the system is bigger. (…………. )
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